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Drinnik Shoehorn · Post by **Drinnik Shoehorn** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:14 am

Desdichado wrote:
alhoon wrote:Thanks Drinnik, I have missed that.

Des... You should look an ulitharid. Perhaps if I polymorphed you to an octopus and then showed a mirror?
Alright, brain-eater... This time, it will be death or tentacle for you!

HEREWITH I CHALLENGE THEE
TO
A DEADLY DUEL
FOR
LIFE AND HONOUR!

Drinnik, would you please be so kind to second me in that battle?

And so, unworthy monstrosity that feeds on brains of rats, we will settle this once and for a all!

Follow this link and find your doom, fiendish foe called "the alhoon"!

Sorry, Daisy, rules of the Kargat say I have to let you both fight and kill the winner.

Yattara · Post by **Yattara** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:14 am

Desdichado wrote:
ScS of the Fraternity wrote:
Miriel wrote:
My DarkSun-fu is weak. Which domain would that be?
Kalidnay, run by Thaok-an, the templar of a comatose dragon-king.
*Slightly distracted by his outburst of violence*

Yes, it's first presented in the Forbidden Lore Box, and one of the coolest domains I had the pleasure to read about so far...

Thankee-sais. *bows*

*goes dig out her Forbidden Lore-box*

Jester of the FoS · Post by **Jester of the FoS** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:21 am

Heroes of Horror was of limited use in a gothic campaign. But then, it wasn't meant to be. A Castle Ravenloft might be, it'll be designed for different things.

We'll see though...

Brandi · Post by **Brandi** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 10:22 am

Miriel wrote:*goes dig out her Forbidden Lore-box*

Strangely, in Forbidden Lore Thakok-An is the templar of a dragon-QUEEN. They gender-switched him (and his queen) in Domains of Dread and I was never really sure why, though I'm sure someone here can enlighten me.

Le Noir Faineant · Post by **Le Noir Faineant** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:41 pm

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:Sorry, Daisy, rules of the Kargat say I have to let you both fight and kill the winner.

But would you consider to be the judge in this epic battle of the century - I mean, what against a relaxed Drinnik sitting in the arena, eating some of Des' mom's best Fajitas and watching how Merowech's mean mechwarrior beats the very essence of the mists out of the alhoon?

Le Noir Faineant · Post by **Le Noir Faineant** » Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:43 pm

Brandi wrote:
Miriel wrote:*goes dig out her Forbidden Lore-box*
Strangely, in Forbidden Lore Thakok-An is the templar of a dragon-QUEEN. They gender-switched him (and his queen) in Domains of Dread and I was never really sure why, though I'm sure someone here can enlighten me.

Yeah, I noticed the same... My copy of Domains of Dread arrived just today, and I instantly noticed it.

I am thinking of using Kalidnay in a totally different setting... Actually, in a desert of my beloved Wilderlands...

Rotipher of the FoS · Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:52 pm

Brandi wrote:
Miriel wrote:*goes dig out her Forbidden Lore-box*
Strangely, in Forbidden Lore Thakok-An is the templar of a dragon-QUEEN. They gender-switched him (and his queen) in Domains of Dread and I was never really sure why, though I'm sure someone here can enlighten me.

I'd asked about that myself at one point. Evidently, the dragon-monarch in question wasn't entirely a Ravenloft-product invention, but had been lifted from the historical backstory of Material Plane Kalidnay: an empty ruin, in the Dark Sun setting's present era. Thakok-An's old boss had been male on Athas, but the Kargat had overlooked that little detail in their initial boxed-set description of RL-Kalidnay. When the Athas-fans and designers caught on, they must've screamed bloody murder, as the DoD book (not opting to go the "Hazlik" route

) fixed the cross-world discrepancy by swapping which NPC -- sleeping tyrant or darklord/templar -- was male and which was female.

alhoon · Post by **alhoon** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:39 pm

I haven't taken part in an OOC war for ... 3 years? Let's see if I remember the forms.

Who stands with me against Daisy? It is a fight for honor, goodness and for the future of our children! Rally to my flag to save our children from the horrors of Desdichado.

PS. We will also save our children from honor and goodness too! We can kill them somewhere in the way.

DamienJ · Post by **DamienJ** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:04 am

Not to stay on topic or anything...

I'm always a little bit leery whenever WotC decides to "republish" something which has such a grassroots following. I guess it's the whole thing about commercializing something which is alive. Yes, it's ALIVE

In a manner of speaking...

You're right, 160 pp. is quite large for an adventure...maybe a campaign-setting accessory?

Moral Machivelli · Post by **Moral Machivelli** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:26 am

I just spotted something whirlst looking at WotC online catalouge

Castle Ravenloft: 160 pages

Players guide to Ebberon: 160 Pages

Coincidence? Evil Plot?

Le Noir Faineant · Post by **Le Noir Faineant** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:13 am

alhoon wrote: Who stands with me against Daisy? It is a fight for honor, goodness and for the future of our children! Rally to my flag to save our children from the horrors of Desdichado.

YES!
Save the kind and friendly brain-chewing evil monster with plans for world domination from the mean and nasty knight of truth and honour...

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hey al,

This is what I will make out of you:

Tentacles with vegetables!

Ail · Post by **Ail** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:39 am

Moral Machivelli wrote:I just spotted something whirlst looking at WotC online catalouge

Castle Ravenloft: 160 pages

Players guide to Ebberon: 160 Pages

Coincidence? Evil Plot?

From what I have understood over the years, there is a very limited set of possible page count for books of this format. The number of pages is predetermined by marketing according to cost / return relationships. One of the jobs of the editor, then, would be to cut the written material until it fits the predefined pagecount.
I should note that everything in this post should be preceded by a bit "I Suppose".
But from past history of RL books, they were either (the numbers may be wrong) always 64, or 92 or 1... pages. So, a book can almost be classified by its number of pages: short -> adventure, medium -> accessory, long -> campaign setting..... just a personal theory. Those involved in the business can of course tell you better.

Ail

Moral Machivelli · Post by **Moral Machivelli** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:30 am

I shold clarify. What i ment was, could Castle Ravenloft be the Ravenloft version of the PGTE? It would make sence as it is called a supliment, is the same size, and is the only explination i can think of for a WOTC hardback book on ravenloft .

alhoon · Post by **alhoon** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:32 am

Moral Machivelli wrote: and is the only explination i can think of for a WOTC hardback book on ravenloft .

The other explanation is... money. Hardpacks cost more and should contain more info. Unless someone asks and gets an answer about this book, we can only guess.

Le Noir Faineant · Post by **Le Noir Faineant** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:09 am

Moral Machivelli wrote:I shold clarify. What i ment was, could Castle Ravenloft be the Ravenloft version of the PGTE?

Can you please explain what PGTE means?

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