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Igor the Henchman wrote:I strongly disagree with the domain-reservation policy. In my opinion, the first thing that must be done is to apoint an official project supervisor or editing cometee. The head of the project would then announce which domains will be covered next, and appoint the author or authors when the need arises. If you really want to do a write-up of a particular domain, just wait until the head of the project deems the domain "up for grabs", and contact it with your ideas.

I also strongly agree with the suggestions advanced by Drinnik, Rotipher and Mortavius.

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I also agree with you Drinnik. If and when the Frat agrees, then I believe we should vote for a supervisor/editor and then proceed as he/she suggests.
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Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:

Dear Diary,

Today Iggy agreed with me. It's only the second time this has happened in 5 years.

I feel loved.

D.
Probably happened more times than that, Drinnik. :) Shame that I didn't make it more apparent.

There's a sad tendency on message boards to respond primarily to posters you disagree with. Posts you approve of, you tend to read through and grace with an occasional unseen nod. I'll try to work on correcting this mistake in the future.
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Igor the Henchman wrote:
Drinnik Shoehorn wrote:

Dear Diary,

Today Iggy agreed with me. It's only the second time this has happened in 5 years.

I feel loved.

D.
Probably happened more times than that, Drinnik. :) Shame that I didn't make it more apparent.

There's a sad tendency on message boards to respond primarily to posters you disagree with. Posts you approve of, you tend to read through and grace with an occasional unseen nod. I'll try to work on correcting this mistake in the future.
It was a joke, Iggy. Going back to the Kargatane boards when me and you disagreed all the time about Amelia and Drinnik, one time we agreed and I posted a "Dear Diary" post.

I was feeling all nostalgic, what with the Saga dying and all.
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I would like the note that releasing netbooks like gazetteers using S as a narrator may be in conflict with some copyright we are not aware of, as it would be property of the license. So new characters may have to be introduced to narrate each domain.

I'Cath... I know I am not alone in loving this domain and there are plenty of people out there who have the time to watch A Chinese Ghosts Story (not the anime version) a few hundred times to find how it should be ;)

Drinnik, I'll knife fight with you, not for the domain, just for the fun of having a knife fight. Also, pray Charney doesn't want that domain coz he is a gypsy and good at knife fighting, lol.

What books are and aren't in the future for the Frat is uncertain, we would love to run about 10 or 20 projects at a time and get everything out all at once, but that is impossible. We are always dreaming and planning new projects, some happen, some don;t, that;s how it is. However, when we decide on what we will do next, we will make it public.

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I don't believe it would be Wiccy. The very act of publishing domain information is what's going to conflict with copyright laws rather than using S. S is just a character and anything she does is "fanfiction"

There's nothing especially protecting S that isn't going to interfere with something else.
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I don't see how using S as a narrator in netbooks is, in terms of copyright, any different than using Strahd, or Van Richten... or the Fraternity of Shadows, for that matter.
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Okay, given that you could use S, it would be quite a challenge to write in the style she uses, this wuld put alot of pressure on the editorial team to say the least. General editing is tough without having to rewrite large amounts of text in a 20+ page document to match a character.

Another reason why I suggested alternate characters as a possibility where the narrator is concerned.
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Wiccy of the Fraternity wrote:Okay, given that you could use S, it would be quite a challenge to write in the style she uses, this wuld put alot of pressure on the editorial team to say the least. General editing is tough without having to rewrite large amounts of text in a 20+ page document to match a character.

Another reason why I suggested alternate characters as a possibility where the narrator is concerned.
True, I understand, on the other hand...no offense and all. It's really not the same as the Gazeteers of the Kargatane unless it's S. While it might not be Mandatory and SHE hires agents. Some of us are particularly interested in the continuing flowing narrative.
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I can understand where you are coming from, but to keep the entie book in character would be a terribly daunting task. You would have to check, recheck and recheck again (maybe even again and again and again, etc) to make sure every word fits the character. One word out of character can ruin the feel for an entire section of the book. While the conscious mind may not pick up on it, the subconcsious would and it would nag, trust me on that. It is for that reason I have never submitted several in-character articles I have written, something in them did not sit with the character and it plagued my mind that I could not find what it was.
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True,

However I think most of us as much the resolution of S's story arc as we do the Gazetteers themselves
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I can't help with anything with the project, what with being a n00bz introduced by the third editiona nd all, but I must say that I will read whatever you migh put out. Good luck!
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While this "Gaz" netbook project is of course one of the first thing the FoS discussed when we knew something was soon to be announced by WW, I'd like to cool down things here on this matter.

- We have no idea yet what are WotC's plan about RL. So until we know the status of the setting, we won't move an inch on this project.

- If RL joins the rank of unsupported setting, there is still the question of rights to the domain's name and history, still a property of WotC. So the legality of the FoS making new Gaz isn't clear for me at the moment.

- Most probably we won't let one person write the domain of his / her choice. All articles will probably be team work.

So do not expect this project starting next week, but expect the FoS to monitor closely what we can do about it !

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Joël of the Fraternity wrote: - If RL joins the rank of unsupported setting, there is still the question of rights to the domain's name and history, still a property of WotC. So the legality of the FoS making new Gaz isn't clear for me at the moment.
Obviously, unless there's something amazing happening, it can't be published. However, as a fan project I think it's perfectly legal in the nebulous area of fanfiction. Book of S style projetcs
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Willowhugger wrote:
Joël of the Fraternity wrote: - If RL joins the rank of unsupported setting, there is still the question of rights to the domain's name and history, still a property of WotC. So the legality of the FoS making new Gaz isn't clear for me at the moment.
Obviously, unless there's something amazing happening, it can't be published. However, as a fan project I think it's perfectly legal in the nebulous area of fanfiction. Book of S style projetcs
For me, there is a big difference in writing new fan stuff set in Ravenloft (what most fan netbook are comprised of), and of taking copyrighted material and expanding it. What portion of Ship of Horrors can you legally use in your fan made text about the Nocturnal Sea?

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