The idea introduced itself to me all of a sudden, and there's plenty of evil in this particular series that would be deserving of being drawn into the Mists.
I feel it might be interesting to incorporate some ideas from a piece of well-written fanfiction, too.
I forget the title, but the premise is that the light wizards agree in a magical treaty that Great Britain will be the sovereign territory of the Death Eaters, and that all light-aligned wizards and their relatives will depart, never to bother Voldemort's empire again.
At first the Death Eaters are jubilant. Finally, their pure-blooded Britain. Then the Death Eaters realize to their horror that all the people who keep the magitech going were on the light side. Rich old pure-blood families are hemorrhaging money because their business networks are in shambles and their tenants have left.
The low-class thugs who are their foot soldiers are mostly petty criminals and layabouts; they don't have the necessary training to keep the elevators running, and little motivation to acquire it.
Worse, genetics rears its head. With such a limited gene pool, the already recessive gene that triggers magic is dying out. Every new generation has less wizards, and they're consistently weaker. At first the Death Eaters acquire mail order brides from foreign pure blood families, but those soon grow unwilling to waste their daughters on what is clearly a dying empire. They abduct some young women on raids, but they're stuck in their empire; the magical pact forbids them from settling outside GB. Soon, the rest of the magical world is actively isolating them in their dying empire.
And Voldemort is getting bored. He has no light-side wizards to torment and kill. The magical treaty forbids the dark-side wizards from attacking non-magical people on their home soil, lest they lose their magic. Dark-side wizards in GB tend to collapse, screaming in agony, as Voldie uses the dark mark to remotely torture them.
Lucius Malfoy reflects that the light-siders knew exactly what they were doing, thanks to help from such people as Hermione Granger, who knew about statistics and genetics from her non-magical side. He anticipates that either the Death Eaters need to somehow subdue Voldemort and offer him to Harry Potter to kill, fulfilling the prophecy and allowing them to sue for peace, or else they must die out... or Voldie has to finally run out of wizards to torture and grow so bored that he attacks a non-magical, loses all of his magic, and is instantly killed as his Horcruxes stop working.
Let us consider, then, a dark and warped version of England adrift in the Mists, where some version of Voldemort has awoken after the battle at Hogwarts. To his immense surprise, he is not dead, after all.
The Dark Lord is at the height of his arcane might, none of his enemies are there, and Hogwarts and the Ministry are completely under his thumb. Unfortunately, Hogwarts' halls are mostly empty. The Dark Lord's followers are few, their numbers dwindling and their powers in decline.
Monsters stalk the night of this England, and while they kowtow and fawn on the Dark Lord if he confronts them, they eagerly assault both wizard and non-magical as soon as his back is turned. To Voldie's frustration, the non-magicals are actually dealing better with the situation than his dark wizards; as magic is waning, science is booming. Non-magicals are inventing new weapons and defences all the time, whereas magic has grown stale and its practitioners uninventive.
To the Dark Lord's own mounting horror and loathing, he discovers that:
A) His immortality is no longer the way he remembers it. Rather than being a ... whatever he used to be, Voldie is now a standard lich, his body rotting around him, forcing him to wear magical disguises lest he lose his last remaining followers and so he is not forced to see the signs of Death's triumph on him whenever he looks into a reflective surface. His illusions and disguises fail him at random times, filling him with horror of his condition and fear that he might be losing his powers.
B) The Dark Lord is discovering an affinity for science in himself. (Maybe give him ranks in the Technomancer PrC and some of the Technological item creation-feats.) While magic is on the wane and in danger of dying out, leaving Voldie alone in his corrupted England, science is booming... and some of the Dark Lord's casual doodles and notes have created quite a stir in the scientific community. Any time he wants, Voldie could be accepted into the scientific community, respected and admired for his creative genius.
What else could we do to make this domain a fitting prison for this particular Darklord? Should we make it a Cluster, adding a Scotland, Ireland and/or Wales-equivalent?
A Dumbledore-equivalent, condemned for the crimes of his youth and his manipulation of young children into doing dirty work he should have undertaken himself... that could also be an interesting Darklord. He could rule the Wales-equivalent from a ruined Hogwarts, forever scheming to somehow draw a new Chosen One to him and under his control, so he can send him at the Voldemort-equivalent.
What else, what more? Let me hear your thoughts, guys. ^_^ Let's make it scary.
A domain based on Harry Potter?
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
The first thing that came to my mind was the domain of Hazlan, where magic is probably the most accepted. Going off your original idea for a new domain however, I really like the idea of the Dumbledore figure being evil.
It would be a splendid deconstruction of the Old Mentor archetype that Dumbledore, Gandalf, and Obi-Wan types play. He can come across as this kindly old wizard who has the power to stop the Darklord but wants to leave it to younger generations to make new heroes, but in reality it can just be he refuses to fight himself because he's self-preserving, cowardly, or just lazy and sees it beneath him.
It would be a splendid deconstruction of the Old Mentor archetype that Dumbledore, Gandalf, and Obi-Wan types play. He can come across as this kindly old wizard who has the power to stop the Darklord but wants to leave it to younger generations to make new heroes, but in reality it can just be he refuses to fight himself because he's self-preserving, cowardly, or just lazy and sees it beneath him.
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Or he genuinely believes he has become unworthy - and refuses to even try to redeem himself, and keeps throwing idealistic kids at a malicious enemy after training them and subtly corrupting what made them viable candidates for being heroes in the first place. Rinse and repeat.
Meanwhile, in the Ireland- and Scotland-equivalent, the remaining wizards and non-magicals actually live in something close to harmony. It is the largest part of the Cluster, and its Darklord is ... a HP-equivalent. Constantly frustrated by the way wizards are simply accepted, generally seen as nothing extraordinary, and how they fully assimilate into 'muggle' society. He tends to lash out violently because for all the rhetoric about wizards and muggles being equal, he cannot accept being seen as anything other than special, and the traumas of his youth make him suspect non-magical people of malice which in his domain simply does not exist...
Meanwhile, in the Ireland- and Scotland-equivalent, the remaining wizards and non-magicals actually live in something close to harmony. It is the largest part of the Cluster, and its Darklord is ... a HP-equivalent. Constantly frustrated by the way wizards are simply accepted, generally seen as nothing extraordinary, and how they fully assimilate into 'muggle' society. He tends to lash out violently because for all the rhetoric about wizards and muggles being equal, he cannot accept being seen as anything other than special, and the traumas of his youth make him suspect non-magical people of malice which in his domain simply does not exist...
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
No, turning heroes in Dark lords is not what I do.
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
Somewhere, the Dark Powers just said: "Hold my beer." 
But seriously, that's fine with me, Mistmaster.
But seriously, that's fine with me, Mistmaster.
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Volume III might offer some inspiration. I would elaborate, but spoilers.
"Blood once flowed, a choice was made
Travel by night the smallest one bade" The Ballad of the Taverners.
The Galen Saga: 2000-2005
Travel by night the smallest one bade" The Ballad of the Taverners.
The Galen Saga: 2000-2005
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
Oof! I read the synopsis. That one went a little too far for me. ^^;
Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
Oh wow, your concept for a dark, warped version of England is absolutely chilling and brilliant!
I love how you’ve twisted the Harry Potter universe into something almost Lovecraftian in its tone—Voldemort not dead, the Death Eaters slowly decaying, and magic itself fading. It’s such a fascinating inversion: the Dark Lord at the height of power, yet increasingly powerless in practice because his empire of magic is collapsing from neglect and dwindling talent. The idea that science and non-magical ingenuity start outpacing magic is pure genius—it’s the ultimate poetic justice for a world that depended on magical hierarchies and traditions for so long.
I especially like how you’ve considered the role of individual wizards, like Lucius Malfoy, recognizing that the “light-side” had essentially outmaneuvered them through strategy and understanding of genetics. That kind of layered plotting gives the story so much depth. I can just picture a young wizard wandering the ruins of Hogwarts, clutching their wand
, unsure whether they even have enough power left to cast a simple charm, while the Dark Lord seethes in the shadows. The dwindling magical gene pool creates this eerie atmosphere where every spell feels precious and desperate, and the wands themselves might even start behaving unpredictably—think of a wand that refuses a spell or misfires because its owner lacks confidence or pure-blood lineage. That’s the kind of tension that keeps readers hooked!
Also, I adore your idea of a morally gray Dumbledore figure. A wizard of immense power, outwardly benevolent, yet manipulative, lazy, or cowardly—it’s the perfect counterbalance to Voldemort. He could be playing an intricate game, shaping young wizards and directing events from behind the scenes, while the Dark Lord grows increasingly frustrated that the world isn’t submitting as expected. Imagine the interplay between the two: one using cunning, strategy, and patience, the other relying on brute magical power but losing ground as magic wanes. The imagery of Hogwarts abandoned or turned into a base for his schemes is so vivid.
Finally, the Dark Lord’s transformation into a lich-like figure adds a horrifying physical element. His need to rely on illusions to hide decay, combined with waning magical energy, could give some of the most iconic scenes: wand battles that are as much psychological as magical, spells backfiring, Harry Potter magic wands failing, and the very essence of wizardcraft itself in jeopardy. There’s so much room for exploring the deterioration of power, the desperation of wizards clinging to old traditions, and the eerie silence of a once-magical England.
Seriously, this could be a masterclass in dark fantasy fanfiction. I can already imagine the opening scene: a lone wizard gripping their wand
, walking through empty corridors of Hogwarts, hearing distant echoes of failed magic, and sensing the Dark Lord’s frustration in the decaying air. The psychological tension alone would be insane!
You’ve got my vote—please keep building this world. It’s creepy, brilliant, and utterly immersive.
I especially like how you’ve considered the role of individual wizards, like Lucius Malfoy, recognizing that the “light-side” had essentially outmaneuvered them through strategy and understanding of genetics. That kind of layered plotting gives the story so much depth. I can just picture a young wizard wandering the ruins of Hogwarts, clutching their wand
, unsure whether they even have enough power left to cast a simple charm, while the Dark Lord seethes in the shadows. The dwindling magical gene pool creates this eerie atmosphere where every spell feels precious and desperate, and the wands themselves might even start behaving unpredictably—think of a wand that refuses a spell or misfires because its owner lacks confidence or pure-blood lineage. That’s the kind of tension that keeps readers hooked!
Also, I adore your idea of a morally gray Dumbledore figure. A wizard of immense power, outwardly benevolent, yet manipulative, lazy, or cowardly—it’s the perfect counterbalance to Voldemort. He could be playing an intricate game, shaping young wizards and directing events from behind the scenes, while the Dark Lord grows increasingly frustrated that the world isn’t submitting as expected. Imagine the interplay between the two: one using cunning, strategy, and patience, the other relying on brute magical power but losing ground as magic wanes. The imagery of Hogwarts abandoned or turned into a base for his schemes is so vivid.
Finally, the Dark Lord’s transformation into a lich-like figure adds a horrifying physical element. His need to rely on illusions to hide decay, combined with waning magical energy, could give some of the most iconic scenes: wand battles that are as much psychological as magical, spells backfiring, Harry Potter magic wands failing, and the very essence of wizardcraft itself in jeopardy. There’s so much room for exploring the deterioration of power, the desperation of wizards clinging to old traditions, and the eerie silence of a once-magical England.
Seriously, this could be a masterclass in dark fantasy fanfiction. I can already imagine the opening scene: a lone wizard gripping their wand
, walking through empty corridors of Hogwarts, hearing distant echoes of failed magic, and sensing the Dark Lord’s frustration in the decaying air. The psychological tension alone would be insane!
You’ve got my vote—please keep building this world. It’s creepy, brilliant, and utterly immersive.
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Re: A domain based on Harry Potter?
This is brilliant.Rock of the Fraternity wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:23 pm The idea introduced itself to me all of a sudden, and there's plenty of evil in this particular series that would be deserving of being drawn into the Mists.
I feel it might be interesting to incorporate some ideas from a piece of well-written fanfiction, too.
I forget the title, but the premise is that the light wizards agree in a magical treaty that Great Britain will be the sovereign territory of the Death Eaters, and that all light-aligned wizards and their relatives will depart, never to bother Voldemort's empire again.
At first the Death Eaters are jubilant. Finally, their pure-blooded Britain. Then the Death Eaters realize to their horror that all the people who keep the magitech going were on the light side. Rich old pure-blood families are hemorrhaging money because their business networks are in shambles and their tenants have left.
The low-class thugs who are their foot soldiers are mostly petty criminals and layabouts; they don't have the necessary training to keep the elevators running, and little motivation to acquire it.
Worse, genetics rears its head. With such a limited gene pool, the already recessive gene that triggers magic is dying out. Every new generation has less wizards, and they're consistently weaker. At first the Death Eaters acquire mail order brides from foreign pure blood families, but those soon grow unwilling to waste their daughters on what is clearly a dying empire. They abduct some young women on raids, but they're stuck in their empire; the magical pact forbids them from settling outside GB. Soon, the rest of the magical world is actively isolating them in their dying empire.
And Voldemort is getting bored. He has no light-side wizards to torment and kill. The magical treaty forbids the dark-side wizards from attacking non-magical people on their home soil, lest they lose their magic. Dark-side wizards in GB tend to collapse, screaming in agony, as Voldie uses the dark mark to remotely torture them.
Lucius Malfoy reflects that the light-siders knew exactly what they were doing, thanks to help from such people as Hermione Granger, who knew about statistics and genetics from her non-magical side. He anticipates that either the Death Eaters need to somehow subdue Voldemort and offer him to Harry Potter to kill, fulfilling the prophecy and allowing them to sue for peace, or else they must die out... or Voldie has to finally run out of wizards to torture and grow so bored that he attacks a non-magical, loses all of his magic, and is instantly killed as his Horcruxes stop working.
Let us consider, then, a dark and warped version of England adrift in the Mists, where some version of Voldemort has awoken after the battle at Hogwarts. To his immense surprise, he is not dead, after all.
The Dark Lord is at the height of his arcane might, none of his enemies are there, and Hogwarts and the Ministry are completely under his thumb. Unfortunately, Hogwarts' halls are mostly empty. The Dark Lord's followers are few, their numbers dwindling and their powers in decline.
Monsters stalk the night of this England, and while they kowtow and fawn on the Dark Lord if he confronts them, they eagerly assault both wizard and non-magical as soon as his back is turned. To Voldie's frustration, the non-magicals are actually dealing better with the situation than his dark wizards; as magic is waning, science is booming. Non-magicals are inventing new weapons and defences all the time, whereas magic has grown stale and its practitioners uninventive.
To the Dark Lord's own mounting horror and loathing, he discovers that:
A) His immortality is no longer the way he remembers it. Rather than being a ... whatever he used to be, Voldie is now a standard lich, his body rotting around him, forcing him to wear magical disguises lest he lose his last remaining followers and so he is not forced to see the signs of Death's triumph on him whenever he looks into a reflective surface. His illusions and disguises fail him at random times, filling him with horror of his condition and fear that he might be losing his powers.
B) The Dark Lord is discovering an affinity for science in himself. (Maybe give him ranks in the Technomancer PrC and some of the Technological item creation-feats.) While magic is on the wane and in danger of dying out, leaving Voldie alone in his corrupted England, science is booming... and some of the Dark Lord's casual doodles and notes have created quite a stir in the scientific community. Any time he wants, Voldie could be accepted into the scientific community, respected and admired for his creative genius.
What else could we do to make this domain a fitting prison for this particular Darklord? Should we make it a Cluster, adding a Scotland, Ireland and/or Wales-equivalent?
A Dumbledore-equivalent, condemned for the crimes of his youth and his manipulation of young children into doing dirty work he should have undertaken himself... that could also be an interesting Darklord. He could rule the Wales-equivalent from a ruined Hogwarts, forever scheming to somehow draw a new Chosen One to him and under his control, so he can send him at the Voldemort-equivalent.
What else, what more? Let me hear your thoughts, guys. ^_^ Let's make it scary.
But I'd like to note that Voldemort is already, in all but looks, a lich.
I mean, what else do you call a wizard who murdered people and performed a complex magical ritual in order to store his soul in an object so that he can respawn if killed? horcrux is synonymous with phylactery, and I'll die on this hill.
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