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 Post subject: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:16 am 
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I was only curious if anyone uses the 'Gothic Earth' setting in any time period prior to its recommended starting date? If someone has, how did you and those with you enjoy it?

If you could explain how you felt about it and why, it would be interesting. Thanks!

** Doesnt just have to be Gothic Earth, could simply be a game set somewhere in the 'real' earth prior to modern times.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:29 pm 
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I've considered it, to be sure. The Seven Seas setting could be very useful if you want to run a MotRD game in the 16th or 17th centuries. I also bought a copy of the very interesting Colonial Gothic and Witchfinder RPGs with an eye towards using them in a pre-1890s Gothic Earth game...

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:57 pm 
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I once ran a one-off set in Qing Dynasty China (1890s). The setting was very much an "empire in decline" with unstoppable drugs coming in from outside and foreign navies and armies decimating native populations. Because China had so many stagnant technological areas, in many ways it was still a pre-modern society even though it was the same time era as post-Enlightenment Europe. Some areas of technology had no reason to progress beyond 1600s, because of the availability of manpower and the unnecessity of mechanization.

The primary clash was between the Harmonious Fists (Boxer Rebels) and the foreigners, with the ossified Qing Imperial Bureaucracy as a distant power player. I threw in some mystical background agendas too, with a few people trying to push back the fearsome future arrival of the "Emissary of the Red Death" in Hunan province. In the end, the players were able to eliminate all three powers in the immediate area, leaving the community relatively free.

In the end, the PCs received a final dinner in thanks from a local farmer named Mao, whose very young son is the Red Emissary the mystics spoke of.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:10 pm 
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A 2nd edition book called Chronomancer, which detailed time-travel magic, states that the various 2nd edition "Historical Reference" books were basically detailing the past of the Gothic Earth, so you could use those as a basis, though you'll probably have to convert the rules.

Green Ronin had put out a line of d20 settings on earth known as "Mythic Vistas" which detailed various periods such as ancient Rome, Biblical Judea, and the Caribbean of the "Golden Age of Piracy" (1690-1720). You'd have to make some changes based on the MotRD rules and setting (corruption of magic, etc.), but they're a handy reference and have some neat prestige classes and monsters.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:47 pm 
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There's also the Mythic Vistas: Medieval Player's Handbook which could come in handy...

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:59 pm 
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d20 Past would be pretty helpful as well, one of the periods it covers is "The Age of Reason," covering 1450 through 1700.

Actually, now that I think about it, d20 Past's Industrial Age rules and "Shadow Stalkers" setting are better suited to the core MotRD setting than White Wolf's "attempt" (seriously, the WW MotRD is 2e rules with a few words changed :roll: )

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:57 pm 
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That's not completely true...

They also added half a page based on women's attire.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
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And I was just thinking of spending $100 to get MotRD 3.5. Should I save my money?


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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:03 pm 
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I certainly wouldn't pay $100 for the book! :shock: I got mine for $5 at a book sale...

I believe it exists for pretty cheap in .pdf format. Check DriveThruRPG :D

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 Post subject: Re: Pre - modern Gothic earth
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:26 pm 
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Higginz wrote:
And I was just thinking of spending $100 to get MotRD 3.5. Should I save my money?

Save your money.

I would recommend getting the Masque of the Red Death Red Box set for 2nd edition, and / or the book D20 Past.

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