How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Discussing all things Ravenloft
User avatar
Mephisto of the FoS
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1850
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:55 pm
Location: Athens-Greece
Contact:

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Mephisto of the FoS »

TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 9:48 am
Even though 2E sources list his alignment as Chaotic Good, I've always felt his steely focus on getting his targets at any cost and general indifference about protecting or comforting their victims gives him an "evil path" vibe.
I think earlier editions had some sort of a patronisation toward Chaotic Good, considering it only a little bit better than neutral.
He was CG but he had an alignment change over the years of hunting Natalia.
"I am not omniscient, but I know a lot."
-Mephistopheles from Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
User avatar
Rock of the Fraternity
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 6836
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:16 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Rock of the Fraternity »

Mephisto of the FoS wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:11 pm
TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 9:48 am
Even though 2E sources list his alignment as Chaotic Good, I've always felt his steely focus on getting his targets at any cost and general indifference about protecting or comforting their victims gives him an "evil path" vibe.
I think earlier editions had some sort of a patronisation toward Chaotic Good, considering it only a little bit better than neutral.
He was CG but he had an alignment change over the years of hunting Natalia.
Butchering her whole family, including those too weak due to young or old age to fight back, didn't help.
Welcome to my webcomic, Sarcantasy.
You can read it here:

Comicfury; Webtoon

Come drop by and leave a comment; you'll make my day.
Mistmaster
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1409
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:27 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Mistmaster »

In the mistworld he did not kill her family. Because when he arrived at her home he found out she had a child with him. He saved his son and went baxck to Mordentshire
User avatar
Mephisto of the FoS
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1850
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:55 pm
Location: Athens-Greece
Contact:

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Mephisto of the FoS »

Mistmaster wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:49 pm In the mistworld he did not kill her family. Because when he arrived at her home he found out she had a child with him. He saved his son and went baxck to Mordentshire
I smell a Dexter scenario in this...
Recognizing the boy's trauma and the subsequent development of his sociopathic tendencies, Harry trained Dexter to channel his gruesome bloodlust into vigilantism, killing only heinous criminals who slip through the criminal justice system.
"I am not omniscient, but I know a lot."
-Mephistopheles from Faust by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Mistmaster
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1409
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:27 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Mistmaster »

Until now, this has not happened but it could certenly happen. However, the kid is now living happily in Mordent. The problems will become when the kid hit puberty. True lichantropy is heriditary, after all.
User avatar
TheArcaneWeirdo
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:22 pm
Gender: Other
Location: Jerusalem

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by TheArcaneWeirdo »

Mistmaster wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 6:49 pm In the mistworld he did not kill her family. Because when he arrived at her home he found out she had a child with him. He saved his son and went baxck to Mordentshire
What's mistworld?
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
Mistmaster
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1409
Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:27 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Mistmaster »

It is my rewritingof the demiplane as a full material plane. You can find it here viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10496 and in QTR Issues from 23 onwards. QtR versions of articles listed here are better and sometime contains retcons.
User avatar
Drinnik Shoehorn
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1843
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:28 pm
Location: Tiptree, Home of Jam

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by Drinnik Shoehorn »

Recently I've started to see Van Richten as a Rupert Giles figure.

When we first meet Giles, he's the stuffy Librarian who is uptight around Buffy and dedicated to his job. He's wound a little tight and keeps his private life very private.

Then we find out about his Ripper days. Giles was a tearaway as a teenager, and he did a lot of unsavoury things, the only one that's mentioned is summoning Eiyghon for thrills. But even when the chocolate makes him a teenager in Band Candy, we see he has no respect for the law, isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and is genrally a thug.

And as the series progresses and he gets more comfortable around Buffy, he shows more of that side, and we see flashes of it (when he threatens Snyder, when he threatens Glory's minion when the girls' backs are turned, and when he kills Ben). GIles, on the surface, is calm and collected, but deep down he is an angry man who will do what is right.

And I see Van Richten as very much the same. Play him as the bumbling old mentor when he first meets the party, because that's partly who he is, but mostly who he wants the world to see him as. Then throw hints at his ruthlessness, at his single mindedness, but also his compassion and his ability to recognise when he is wrong.

Tony Head would be a good choice for Van RIchten in a live action Ravenloft as Giles is the perfect template.
"Blood once flowed, a choice was made
Travel by night the smallest one bade" The Ballad of the Taverners.
The Galen Saga: 2000-2005
User avatar
TheArcaneWeirdo
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:22 pm
Gender: Other
Location: Jerusalem

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by TheArcaneWeirdo »

Drinnik Shoehorn wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 6:28 am Recently I've started to see Van Richten as a Rupert Giles figure.

When we first meet Giles, he's the stuffy Librarian who is uptight around Buffy and dedicated to his job. He's wound a little tight and keeps his private life very private.

Then we find out about his Ripper days. Giles was a tearaway as a teenager, and he did a lot of unsavoury things, the only one that's mentioned is summoning Eiyghon for thrills. But even when the chocolate makes him a teenager in Band Candy, we see he has no respect for the law, isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and is genrally a thug.

And as the series progresses and he gets more comfortable around Buffy, he shows more of that side, and we see flashes of it (when he threatens Snyder, when he threatens Glory's minion when the girls' backs are turned, and when he kills Ben). GIles, on the surface, is calm and collected, but deep down he is an angry man who will do what is right.

And I see Van Richten as very much the same. Play him as the bumbling old mentor when he first meets the party, because that's partly who he is, but mostly who he wants the world to see him as. Then throw hints at his ruthlessness, at his single mindedness, but also his compassion and his ability to recognise when he is wrong.

Tony Head would be a good choice for Van RIchten in a live action Ravenloft as Giles is the perfect template.
That's pretty much what I had in mind. Like, I didn't read or watch Buffy, but that's the typical 'monster hunter' archetype.
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
User avatar
TheArcaneWeirdo
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:22 pm
Gender: Other
Location: Jerusalem

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by TheArcaneWeirdo »

There's actually another question I want to ask:
It seems from the Guides that Van Richten is a deeply religious person, even considering to become a priest.
But of what religion?
Ezra was unheard of in Darkon during his time, and I can't imagine him continuing to worship The Eternal Order after discovering Azalin's nature.
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
The Dark
Arch-villain
Arch-villain
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:32 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by The Dark »

The Faith of the Overseer is one possibility. It was founded in Martira Bay per Bleak House, but Gaz II established that there's a branch in Rivalis, which is van Richten's hometown. Their clergy are counselors and (non-magical) healers, which aligns nicely with van Richten's medical studies.
User avatar
TheArcaneWeirdo
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:22 pm
Gender: Other
Location: Jerusalem

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by TheArcaneWeirdo »

The Dark wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:28 pm The Faith of the Overseer is one possibility. It was founded in Martira Bay per Bleak House, but Gaz II established that there's a branch in Rivalis, which is van Richten's hometown. Their clergy are counselors and (non-magical) healers, which aligns nicely with van Richten's medical studies.
Interesting, but when did it start? Did it exist when van Richten actually lived in RIvalis? I always thought it was very recent.
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
The Dark
Arch-villain
Arch-villain
Posts: 167
Joined: Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:32 pm

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by The Dark »

TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 7:41 am
The Dark wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:28 pm The Faith of the Overseer is one possibility. It was founded in Martira Bay per Bleak House, but Gaz II established that there's a branch in Rivalis, which is van Richten's hometown. Their clergy are counselors and (non-magical) healers, which aligns nicely with van Richten's medical studies.
Interesting, but when did it start? Did it exist when van Richten actually lived in RIvalis? I always thought it was very recent.
It was founded in 650 BC (per Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Ravenloft Player's Handbook) and van Richten was born in 671 BC.
User avatar
TheArcaneWeirdo
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 755
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2025 1:22 pm
Gender: Other
Location: Jerusalem

Re: How to use Van Richten in my campaign?

Post by TheArcaneWeirdo »

The Dark wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 7:41 pm
TheArcaneWeirdo wrote: Thu Jan 22, 2026 7:41 am
The Dark wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:28 pm The Faith of the Overseer is one possibility. It was founded in Martira Bay per Bleak House, but Gaz II established that there's a branch in Rivalis, which is van Richten's hometown. Their clergy are counselors and (non-magical) healers, which aligns nicely with van Richten's medical studies.
Interesting, but when did it start? Did it exist when van Richten actually lived in RIvalis? I always thought it was very recent.
It was founded in 650 BC (per Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Ravenloft Player's Handbook) and van Richten was born in 671 BC.
Oh, so it fits just fine! Thanks.
"Not all that is violet is deadly, and not all that is deadly is violet." - "S", Gaz IV, page 13.
Post Reply