WolfKook wrote:WOW! That was a hearty argument!
I try. I hate to see a project get bogged down in fixing things that needn't be fixed, and that happens a LOT when you start questioning the fundamentals.
"Hey, why does everyone need TWO kidneys?"
Let's start calling things by name: My guess is that what Roti originally proposed wasn't that the house was the Darklord per se, but instead that there was a strange presence -that, and you have to agree with me in this, predates Godefroy, the Weathermays or even Jacques Renier, who built the house -.
Okay, most of that is canon, up to the part where it predated the builder Renier (his first name has never been made known, IIRC). That last part is unclear whether the house-entity predated the construction or was constructed/born along with it.
And IMO this presence, which drove away Renier and every other noble who lived in the house after him, up until Godefroy moved into it, seems much more interesting, powerful and mysterious than Godefroy himself.
I'll agree with that.
Then, Godefroy moved in, and instead of fleeing the house as everybody else, stayed long enough to have a "Shining" streak and murder his own family within the limits of the house.
Good so far.
Then, according to GazIII, the House (Or, more accordingly, the presence in the house) woke up in a murderous rage, and took on Godefroy (And everyone else on Mordent, for that matter).
Okay, here you're getting a little fuzzy with canon. The murders of Lilia and Estelle Godefroy awoke something in the house that was malevolent, yes. Where does it say that presence then took on Godefroy, and/or all of Mordent?
If you're extrapolating, fine. Up til now you've been strictly by the book, but I figured you'd diverge eventually, and if this is it, all well and good. It just sounded like you were citing Gaz 3 as the source, which could be debated.
What I'm trying to say is that we're not talking about four walls and a roof (Which, I agree, is not a darklord), but about a ghostly presence (Ghost, nightshade, animator, fiend, caller in darkness or whatever you want to call it). Once we agree on that, it stops being so alien, starts being sentient and not just a phantasmagora, and -with a good backstory to support it -begins to elicit enough sympathy as to becoming worthy of darklordship, while it stops contradicting canon rules.
This I can see, but you say "we" as if the others in this thread are with you on this being less alien and more sentient. I was specifically responding to posts that were arguing for more alien and less sentient. All of the creatures you list there might be potential darklords.
And Godefroy starts being just a pawn, knowingly or not, willingly or not, of the
true darklord.
If that's how you want it, cool.
But I think you need to make it clear to the others here on the thread that the presence in the house is going to get a backstory that will elicit sympathy in order to be a DL.
Once that's dealt with, my objection to the relative amounts of work is a minor quibble. This is one legitimate way to reconcile the time discrepancies with Godefrey's DLship, and while my preference would still be for fixing Godefroy, I can't really say which approach would take more work, in the end.