Wotc and Ravenloft

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:15 pm

Well I guess this merits a poll!!! Seeing as 4th edition is about to come out and all. I just want your opinion on if you think Wotc would butcher Ravenloft or do a good job. Feel free to state your opinions as well!

Rotipher of the FoS · Post by **Rotipher of the FoS** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:31 pm

You might want to add a "Depends who writes it" option, there. Some of WotC's designers really liked 2E-era Ravenloft, but others don't have any personal ties to the setting.

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:37 pm

Um ok but if ya tell me how, I'll be glad to add an option, Roti

I've no idea how

Nathan of the FoS · Post by **Nathan of the FoS** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:39 pm

tarlyn st-denfer wrote:Um ok but if ya tell me how, I'll be glad to add an option, Roti I've no idea how

Done! You can probably do it just by editing the post, Tarlyn. That's how I did it, and I don't think it was because of special moderator powers.

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:45 pm

In edit I see no poll options Nathan

Spiteful Crow · Post by **Spiteful Crow** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:00 pm

I think it depends on who writes it. If it's written by people who don't know a thing about the original Ravenloft and don't even bother reading about it, then it'll be crap just like EtCR was. If, on the other hand, they have someone write it who actually did their homework on the setting, they could probably do a much better job.

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:02 pm

Well if they want people to write it they dont have to look far do they?

Jonathan Winters · Post by **Jonathan Winters** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:02 pm

I voted ''depending who'', but I think it also has more to do with what the editor will ask for...

Patrick

Catman Jim · Post by **Catman Jim** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:24 pm

Why do I have this dread feeling we would get monthly hard-cover sourcebooks like:

The Races of Ravenloft
The Magic of Ravenloft
The Power of Ravenloft
Faiths & Pantheons of Ravenloft
Savage Species of Ravenloft
Epic Ravenloft Handbook
Champions & Heroes of Ravenloft
Villains & Lords of Ravenloft
Dragons of Ravenloft
Mysteries of the Sea of Sorrows
Grand History of the Core
Ravenloft Underdark
Ravenloft Arms & Equipment Guide
Ravenloft Survival Guide
Ravenloft Magic Item Compendium
Ravenloft Spell Compendium
Ravenloft Weapons of Legacy
Complete Darklord
Ravenloft Miniatures Handbook
Secrets of the Clusters
and Three-Undead Ante cards?

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:27 pm

Catman Jim wrote:Why do I have this dread feeling we would get monthly hard-cover sourcebooks like:

The Races of Ravenloft
The Magic of Ravenloft
The Power of Ravenloft
Faiths & Pantheons of Ravenloft
Savage Species of Ravenloft
Epic Ravenloft Handbook
Champions & Heroes of Ravenloft
Villains & Lords of Ravenloft
Dragons of Ravenloft
Mysteries of the Sea of Sorrows
Grand History of the Core
Ravenloft Underdark
Ravenloft Arms & Equipment Guide
Ravenloft Survival Guide
Ravenloft Magic Item Compendium
Ravenloft Spell Compendium
Ravenloft Weapons of Legacy
Complete Darklord
Ravenloft Miniatures Handbook
Secrets of the Clusters
and Three-Undead Ante cards?

Heh you hit it dead on Catman Jim IMO. They need to get some people from here who love RL and have written wonderful netbooks and/or gazeteers.

Igor the Henchman · Post by **Igor the Henchman** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:46 pm

Rotipher of the FoS wrote:You might want to add a "Depends who writes it" option, there. Some of WotC's designers really liked 2E-era Ravenloft, but others don't have any personal ties to the setting.

Me, I'm pickier than even that.

It would have to be people who loved 2E- and WW-era Ravenloft, but don't feel constrained by the weight of its tradition. Just as 3E Ravenloft felt and played differently from the TSR version, so should the new incarnation of the setting break into new paths.

I voted "yes", because, from what I've seen, WotC employs writers who are well versed in past D&D lore, and aren't afraid of doing things "their way", usually with good, or at least interesting results.

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:55 pm

Igor the Henchman wrote:
Rotipher of the FoS wrote:You might want to add a "Depends who writes it" option, there. Some of WotC's designers really liked 2E-era Ravenloft, but others don't have any personal ties to the setting.
Me, I'm pickier than even that.

It would have to be people who loved 2E- and WW-era Ravenloft, but don't feel constrained by the weight of its tradition. Just as 3E Ravenloft felt and played differently from the TSR version, so should the new incarnation of the setting break into new paths.

I voted "yes", because, from what I've seen, WotC employs writers who are well versed in past D&D lore, and aren't afraid of doing things "their way", usually with good, or at least interesting results.

Yes 2nd Edition people were the best for RL. Just look at 3.0 +

Mr. Nesmith did a fine job with the Realm of Terror box set. As well as some writers like Mr. Lowder or P.N Elrod.

Just look at any 2nd Ed adventures or books, they are all in that black and white font. I associate RL with that, not the new 3.0 versions. I mean who else thought the adventures or bx sets were really cool with the black n white?

Guardian of Twilight · Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:01 pm

I think that it really depends on who writes the new Ravenloft books, and if they actually care about the setting.

I know that long ago, TSR actually listened to their players and took their advice to heart when introducing new rules and some of their products. Wouldn't it be nice if Wizards did the same with 4E? In other words, make 4E a player's game... not just a new edition where they fix what they thought was broken? And should they decide to put out 4E Ravenloft, it would be nice to see them ask us (the people here at the Fraternity boards) what they would like to see... maybe even make us the official Ravenloft home or something.

Joël of the FoS · Post by **Joël of the FoS** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:03 pm

lol Catman

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I'm confident too. I wouldn't anticipate the RL 4e results just by looking at EtCR.

Joël

steveflam · Post by **steveflam** » Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:05 pm

Guardian of Twilight wrote:I think that it really depends on who writes the new Ravenloft books, and if they actually care about the setting.

I know that long ago, TSR actually listened to their players and took their advice to heart when introducing new rules and some of their products. Wouldn't it be nice if Wizards did the same with 4E? In other words, make 4E a player's game... not just a new edition where they fix what they thought was broken? And should they decide to put out 4E Ravenloft, it would be nice to see them ask us (the people here at the Fraternity boards) what they would like to see... maybe even make us the official Ravenloft home or something.

Do you honestly think that would happen with Wotc? TSR was wonderful for listening to it's customers!

P.S - can ya tell I really like Wotc?

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