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[VAN]

Sara has base attack +1. And yeah of course you can draw weapon at the move action. Will check the link bcz I think I have a serious talk to do with my DM lol.

Thanks Zilfer!

So as stated at the previous post if Sara can draw the rapier and dagger without AoO she will do that and try to flank if possible with Arnulf. Since the spider hasn't gotten an action she has sneak attack.

[ewancummins]

*If you wish to change some declared action because of the at least 1 hour travel time to the mines you can at this time . Just edit your post .

Noted. Edited based on what she knows/can see.

[Lord Skybolt]

Ok Sara for one can draw a weapon free action or 2 if she two weapon(since has two weapon fighting) fight as free action as part of a move action .

And other information to point out is that the spiders are in the trees above where Sara would have had to go into the Grove onto game trail that goes through the Grove . So no AoO in any case and both the spiders are in the trees . So you can't flank either of the pair spiders also .

Sara can have look up if she can as she moves away on her horse(as that is the horses move action) if she wants to and still have her action to do if she wants to . I do need to know how far away she has the horse move though if she has it move though .

As I have said before no sneak attack because they were in wait so they have actually acted by keeping a look out for prey walking under on the game trail them while they are in the trees .

[Zilfer]

No Problem VAN! Also if you are going to bring it up if you have a 3.5 book go to the "combat section" and look at the actions in combat table that provoke AoO and what doesn't. It has the same thing there.

Lord Skybolt, I think my post remains the same. xD let me know how horrible I am. xD

[VAN]

Oh my mistake thought the spiders actually have climbed down of the tree. If possible I will change my action, Sara will not draw the rapier but will ride 30 feet back (but not very close to the others), get down of the horse and draw the guns (move action) and fire (standard).

Sara has 2 weapon fighting feat.

Does the spider has concealment? What modifiers I have at the shots?

[Lord Skybolt]

As long as you are below your first range increment for your weapon you will have no penalties to hit(range on your flintlock pistols is 50ft so no Penalties) . The Spiders on the other hand may have cover bonuses to there AC etc. Oh and Van as a side note on the character sheet I send to you .
When Recording information for your weapons like Critical And Range it is recorded as Such under the heading of Critical it is recorded as such like Rapier would have the following:19-20/x2 and next heading is Range like for rapier would melee . For your pistols it would be a range of 50 ft range increment . See Page 114 PHB for when you start incurring penalties to hit at this range or more .


Roofdrak, Isidar can make another spot check to see if she can spot the spiders again . No bonus since his shot was so off the mark .

[VAN]

Noted, our PHB is different though bcz in page 114 I have the item cost.

Rapier does crit 18-20 x2 though.

1st gun:13 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785174/. Sara has +2HR with the guns but gets -2 penalty for using 2 guns with 2 weapon fighting.

2nd gun: 15 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785176/

[Lord Skybolt]

I just typed in the wrong numbers Van . I was looking at the critical range for a dagger is all .
On where to find Weapon Qualities subsection it is in Weapon Section of the Equipment Chapter(Chapter 7 for my Players Hand Book) .
Also you can look for the info at this Link http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org ... /home.html
In the same sections they are not labeled by chapter, but the same sections are in there as are in PHB .

On your base to hit modifiers, your using the melee instead of ranged to modifiers .You should be using ranged modifiers to hit with guns always unless you are using them like small clubs .
You should be using the ranged to hit modifier of +5 total to hit . For using two guns at once since they are light weapons . Sara modifiers to hit with two weapons at once then is +3 . I will take that in to account when I see if your gun shots will hit the spiders .

Oh and by the way are you shooting at just one spider or one shoot a piece per spider ? Since their are two of them .

[VAN]

I put the melee modifier lol sorry and thanks for correcting it!

Well if the 1st shot hits and actually kills the spider then the 2nd will be at a different spider of course. If the 1st shot doesn't kill it, the 2nd will be at the same spider.

I will edit the HR here and add +3:

1st gun:16 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785174/

2nd gun: 18 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785176/

[Lord Skybolt]

Can you include a damage if your shoot hits like this example of a Hit and damage roll . This is so I can not have to wait for you to get online for a damage roll that may tell me if that is enough to kill a creature .
First number is 21 and second is the damage is 2 points .
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785990/

[Zilfer]

Nice shots!

[VAN]

Nice shots!

Zilfer 21 isn't the damage is the HR.

Can you include a damage if your shoot hits like this example of a Hit and damage roll . This is so I can not have to wait for you to get online for a damage roll that may tell me if that is enough to kill a creature .
First number is 21 and second is the damage is 2 points .
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3785990/

Yeah sure I will.

The gun deals 1d10 damage though not 1d6+1.

1st gun DR: 2 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3789189/

The 2nd gun missed with the 2 of course.

[Lord Skybolt]

That was just an Example of how to do it and not what you have actually rolled for Sara Guns shots . Your 16 and 18 may have hit . If they did I wanted damage rolls with them at the same time is all in future is all I'm saying to speed things up is all .
Sara can see where the spiders are but they are concealed in the trees so there is 20% miss chance per shot:
Both Shots Hit:
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3790271/ I will roll damage for second shot as first will not kill one .
Damage for second shot is 7 Points .
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3790275/
Total Damage to one spider is 9 points of damage . Spider still alive but looks hurt .



To all others:Who have not Declared actions or taken an action but have not rolled a check that would go with that action like Isidar scanning(spot check) the treeline when Arnulf gave a warning . I will roll said check for you and if no declared action it will being just having your character move away from the grove is all .

Isidars Spot check for the 1st round is 21 http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3790282/

She spots the spiders right above the game trail that go through the tree grove .

[kintire]

I have declared a first round action that I will begin Inspiring Courage song (so +1 to hit and Damage all round). Second round, I will take a shot at a spider with "my" crossbow!

[Lord Skybolt]

Spiders to Hit Touch AC with there Webbing .
Spider on the right that Sara hit . To Hit Touch AC is 3 . First Roll .
Spider(unhurt) to hit of Sara also sucks at a 7 to hit . Second roll .
http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3793467/ .

By the next round now :
In order of who goes first:
Sara at 21 .
Huln at 17 .
Arnulf at 12 .( he goes before because base init bonus is higher than Alias)
Alia at 12 .
Dalorna at 11 .
Isidar at 10 .
The spiders at 8 .