Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Discussing all things Ravenloft
User avatar
Trike
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 262
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:04 am
Location: North Carolina

Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Trike »

My Modern Ravenloft NWOD project continues in depth. That leaves me with another question for everyone.

The timeline leaves me several centuries beyond the Time of Unparalleled Darkness as I bring the classic Ravenloft world into a modern era. The darklords do not have domains anymore but nations have sprouted in familiar lands. So, which darklords are ageless? I need to figure out who is still around to plague my unsuspecting players.

Let me consult my trusty John W. Mangrum. The Time of Unparalleled Darkness was scheduled (prophesied) at 775 BC. That would put my "modern" era at between 1575 and 1775 BC. So who's still around, eh?
User avatar
devilfox
Conspirator
Conspirator
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 26, 2012 5:23 am
Gender: Male
Location: Newcastle, Australia

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by devilfox »

Well, Strahd and Azalin are the first two that come to mind.

Actually, technically all of the undead lords would still be there - unless someone had managed to off them in the interim. So that gives you von Karkhov, Godfrey, Tristen ApBlanc and Tristessa as well... and van Riese, I guess. Not to mention Ankhtepot, Tiyet and Misroi out in the Mists.

Malken would probably still be around, though he would have found a new "host" I assume.

And I do recall reading somewhere that Elena Faithhold is immortal.


And that's it for off the top of my head.
Ryan Naylor
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1285
Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 10:55 pm

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Ryan Naylor »

Assuming nothing's happened to them in the meantime:

Strahd (undead)
Azalin (undead)
Tristen ApBlanc (possibly - he may be pure ghost by then, or an extremely old vampyre)
Hazlik (depending how his undying soul really works)
Harkon Lukas (apparently immortal)
Tristessa (undead)
Adam and Mordenheim (effectively immortal)
Wilifred Godefroy (undead)
Death (immortal)
Malken (new host)
The Hags (very long lived)
Gwydion (immortal)
Urik von Kharkov (undead)
Daclaud Heinfroth (undead)
Stezen d'Polarno (maybe - I don't think he ages since the portrait went up)
Lyron Evensong (effectively immortal)
Pieter van Riese (undead)
Easan the Mad (both immortal and long lived)
Morgoroth (effectively immortal in the mirror)
Ankhtepot (undead)
Sodo (long lived)
Ladislav Mircea (undead)
Draga Saltbiter (undying soul)
Tiyet (undead)
Ebonbane (immortal)
Arijani (immortal)
King Crocodile (undying soul)
The God Brain (long lived, if not immortal)
Haki Shinpi (undead)
Anton Misroi (undead, more or less)
Torrence Bleysmith (undead)
The Nightmare Man (immortal?)
The House of Lament (probably)

...and maybe a few others I can't remember or don't care about.

Ivan Dragonov and Jander Sunstar aren't darklords but might still be around too.
User avatar
Zilfer
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 4230
Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:14 pm
Gender: Male
Location: WA (Land of lots of trees)
Contact:

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Zilfer »

Joy to the world that Vlad Drakov is dead! To bad his line sired Vlad Drakov IV and soon V. XD
There's always something to lose.

Fraternity of Shadows Discord
https://discord.gg/AM6Kp95ekf
User avatar
Rotipher of the FoS
Thieving Crow
Thieving Crow
Posts: 4683
Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2003 4:18 pm

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Rotipher of the FoS »

Frantisek Markov is probably immortal, given his power to shapeshift into a fresh new (animal) body any time he wants. Certainly he doesn't seem to have suffered any age-related frailties by the time of ''Neither Man Nor Beast''.

We described Meredoth as unaging in the NS Gaz, and the Lady of the Ravens was written up with an Undying Soul. Virundus, the underwater lord we added to the region in that netbook, is likewise immortal due to his curse-imposed pseudo-godhood.

Of course, if you really like one of the mortal darklords, you could always expand upon their curse to make them immortal IYC, or assume they became undead at some point. Likewise, darklords you don't care to keep could be bumped off by rivals or heroes in the interim, even if they're described as immortal in the published products.

There are quite a few non-darklords who'd still be hanging around, such as Jacqueline Montarri.
"Who [u]cares[/u] what the Dark Powers are? They're [i]bastards![/i] That's all I need to know of them." -- Crow
User avatar
The Lesser Evil
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1548
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:17 am

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by The Lesser Evil »

I don't recall if Ivana Boristi and her Emourdeung had stopped aging or not. I know Ivan will never grow up though :wink:

Mordenheim's link to Adam seems to have given him immortality and longevity beyond normal man.

The Hive queen could have left a brood of progeny behind and the various queens now bicker with each other. Perhaps as a lingering curse of the first, they could all have part of her memory and even her soul.

Although not immortal, the lord of Nosos (forgot his name) and his domain seem to fit a modern or near mordern setting pretty well with some minor alterations- they look like they might be a good fit for a modern or industrial setting (perhaps somewhere in the developing world to account for the man vs. nature schtick?)

As for non-darklords, certainly Toben the Many's likely to be floating around in some form or another (and would make for a lovely zombie apocalypse scenario in a modern setting). So are likely the Shadow Fey and their leaders if the Shadow Rift is still extant (perhaps it's been buried between the subways and sewer tunnels- where the shadow fey live as a sort of 'subdweller' people). They could be involved in a war with the Hive Queen's spawn or drive the spawn upwards into the city.

I wonder if fate would ever be nice to Ratik Ubel and let him catch his murderer- or make him live on after his murderer's death of natural causes to seek vengeance on his murderer's descendants. Certainly could make for a nigh invincible slasher type figure of urban legend if he survives to the modern age.

Madame Eva and the Zarovan tribe seem to exist outside the normal timeframe as we know it, so they might pop in from time to time in a post-apocalypse Ravenloft.
User avatar
A G Thing
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1205
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:41 pm
Gender: Female
Location: Currently the Frozen Wastes of Mount Pleasant Michigan

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by A G Thing »

Vistani in Winnebago's... I don't know if it would be interesting or not! I wonder how much of their culture would survive modernization like the gypsies of our world?
"There is only one true answer to any and every question. The rest are just vagaries and obfuscations."
User avatar
Trike
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 262
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:04 am
Location: North Carolina

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Trike »

My modern Vistani will probably be heavily influenced with modern European gypsies. My technology level is slightly before the television so it would be hard not to re-imagine Django Reinhardt as an NPC.

The modern vardos I'm picturing are more like large, fifties style flatbed trucks with a colorful, box built onto the bed.

Vistani families will be locked in the age old battle between elders "lost in the past" and youths "forgetting their spiritual heritage."
Attachments
Like this only more colorful!
Like this only more colorful!
vardo truck.jpg (11.49 KiB) Viewed 4830 times
User avatar
High Priest Mikhal
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1636
Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:48 pm
Gender: Male
Location: It's dark and I hear laughing.

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by High Priest Mikhal »

The Lesser Evil wrote:I don't recall if Ivana Boristi and her Emourdeung had stopped aging or not.
Ivana has stopped aging, but the Emordenung age at 25% of the normal rate so long as they keep up doses of vital venom. Since only humans (or things that look human) are chosen by Ivana, the longest they'd live is three to four centuries.
"Money is the root of all evil...I think I need more money."
User avatar
devilfox
Conspirator
Conspirator
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 26, 2012 5:23 am
Gender: Male
Location: Newcastle, Australia

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by devilfox »

High Priest Mikhal wrote:
The Lesser Evil wrote:I don't recall if Ivana Boristi and her Emourdeung had stopped aging or not.
Ivana has stopped aging, but the Emordenung age at 25% of the normal rate so long as they keep up doses of vital venom. Since only humans (or things that look human) are chosen by Ivana, the longest they'd live is three to four centuries.
Also, stopping aging does not necessarily imply immortal...

Ivana may well live a normal human lifespan but never look a day over 18.
User avatar
A G Thing
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1205
Joined: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:41 pm
Gender: Female
Location: Currently the Frozen Wastes of Mount Pleasant Michigan

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by A G Thing »

Trike wrote:My modern Vistani will probably be heavily influenced with modern European gypsies. My technology level is slightly before the television so it would be hard not to re-imagine Django Reinhardt as an NPC.

The modern vardos I'm picturing are more like large, fifties style flatbed trucks with a colorful, box built onto the bed.

Vistani families will be locked in the age old battle between elders "lost in the past" and youths "forgetting their spiritual heritage."
I can see that especially with the picture! Could be really cool as a dynamic especially if some of the tasques had to change their skill sets to survive or new tasques formed or at least revealed themselves. I also imagine the Zarovan would have this march to the future the hardest of all!
"There is only one true answer to any and every question. The rest are just vagaries and obfuscations."
User avatar
Hazgarn
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 342
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:17 am
Location: Sacramento, CA
Contact:

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by Hazgarn »

Rotipher of the FoS wrote:Of course, if you really like one of the mortal darklords, you could always expand upon their curse to make them immortal IYC, or assume they became undead at some point.
Interesting thought... What mortal NPCs might be interesting to see in undead form in this new future?

I might just be psychotic, but for some reason a ghoul lord Arthur Sedgewick comes to mind...
Deranged Comics Fan
Strife-monger
Daughter of a Troll
User avatar
High Priest Mikhal
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1636
Joined: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:48 pm
Gender: Male
Location: It's dark and I hear laughing.

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by High Priest Mikhal »

devilfox wrote:Also, stopping aging does not necessarily imply immortal...

Ivana may well live a normal human lifespan but never look a day over 18.
This is true. She's already an octogenarian so if her lifespan is limited, it may be she dies within a few years of 757 BC. OTOH, it would be a final blow to Ivan Dilisnya's pride if she were to live forever barring accident or assault while he continues to age.
"Money is the root of all evil...I think I need more money."
User avatar
The Lesser Evil
Evil Genius
Evil Genius
Posts: 1548
Joined: Sat Apr 03, 2004 3:17 am

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by The Lesser Evil »

High Priest Mikhal wrote:
devilfox wrote:Also, stopping aging does not necessarily imply immortal...

Ivana may well live a normal human lifespan but never look a day over 18.
This is true. She's already an octogenarian so if her lifespan is limited, it may be she dies within a few years of 757 BC. OTOH, it would be a final blow to Ivan Dilisnya's pride if she were to live forever barring accident or assault while he continues to age.
What would be a mean doubletwist was that Ivan would continue aging, but never die (immortality without youth, kinda like Gundar), whereas Ivana might be the opposite (youth without immortality).

Speaking of Gundar, his (albeit slowed) aging despite being a vampire intrigues me. What if in the modern day he's in an old folks home somewhere trying to regain his lost youth through a proxie of goons and gangsters? Kinda like the Godfather mixed with Ra'as Al Ghul rolled up into the body of a vampiric Wilford Brimley? In his old age, Gunder's gotten a little wiser and has cooled off a bit, but it's really all a facade since he doesn't have quite the strength he needs to be an utterly physical threat any more.

So now Gundar's a respected elder patriarch of a prominent crime family, who expresses his spite by sending out his thugs instead of doing the dirty work himself (much to his chagrin). Of course, his time is slowly passing and he's becoming of less and less relevance as time goes on (the old grandfather figure you keep around b/c that's what tradition dictates). Of course, this is ironic b/c he outlives his children and assumes prominence for a time once they're dead. But then they're children start to disregard him, and the process starts over.
User avatar
twinwolf
Conspirator
Conspirator
Posts: 20
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:24 pm
Location: wandering

Re: Who's immortal in Ravenloft?

Post by twinwolf »

perhaps Ivana, once social darling, is now in a self imposed exile. due to the workings of her curse as darklord and the DP's own twisted sense of... irony? humour? while she is awake she has not aged but while she sleeps she just crumples to dust.
Not every Angel alights the sky with feathery wings of Glory,
Nor every Demon with cloven hoof hunts unwary Quarry.
No, but evil exists in this world and in the hearts of us all,
For let us not forget even the greatest of Angels fell.
Post Reply