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Having recently seen the movie, Batman Begins and having been very impressed with it, especially the superbly eerie character of Scarecrow, I was wondering if any of you good people who are more skilled in the art of monster making than I could create a sort of bogeyman based upon Scarecrow (particularly how he appeared to his victims when under the effects of the fear gas).

So, can any of you good people out there make my dream come true?

Batmans scarecrow should be fairly easy. Basicly a sorcerer with an overabundance of "Cause fear" spells and Illusion magic.

I think there was a living or dread scarecrow monster published but I can't remember where.

Just my 2 cents.

That movie was horrible. Really its a typical Batman movie.

The only saving grace was the scarecrow character though. Of course the whole hallucinogen and antidote thing was completely ridiculous.

Batman should've just overcome his fear. You can always control your own mind.

Troile wrote: You can always control your own mind.

Try telling that to Tristen Hiregaard.

Troile wrote:You can always control your own mind.

Strangely enough, I suspect BTK would agree with you.

Sir T wrote:Batmans scarecrow should be fairly easy. Basicly a sorcerer with an overabundance of "Cause fear" spells and Illusion magic.

I think there was a living or dread scarecrow monster published but I can't remember where.

Well, there's the Dread Scarecrow on p. 132 in DoDarkness, but that wouldn't really work for this.

JinnTolser wrote:

Sir T wrote:Batmans scarecrow should be fairly easy. Basicly a sorcerer with an overabundance of "Cause fear" spells and Illusion magic.

I think there was a living or dread scarecrow monster published but I can't remember where.

Well, there's the Dread Scarecrow on p. 132 in DoDarkness, but that wouldn't really work for this.

Well, after doing a bit of thinking, I have abandoned my bogeyman idea. Instead, I think that the Scarecrow would make a perfect addition to my Masque Of The Red Death campaign. Probably a multiclass physician/criminal, with the mask and the fear gas granting him several strange powers.

Sadly, I suck at statting things up, so if any kind soul could aid me in this, I'd reward them with the blood of my firstborn son.

Troile wrote: Batman should've just overcome his fear. You can always control your own mind.

Yes, I'm certain that we all could just ignore the effects of L.S.D. or peyote or any other hallucinogen we might be hit with, or for that matter, any other mood altering substance that we might be hit with.

Unlike in D&D, most drugs in the real world can't be over-come just because we want to resist their effects. Even for the well-trained. For someone saying the hallucinogen and antidote was ridiculous, that last statement rings rather...odd.

Anyway, on the topic:

If you're staying true to him, I'd stat Scarecrow out as a fairly weak Expert alchemist who receives rather substantial morale bonuses against anyone under the effects of his gas.

A veritable push over if you're resistant to his fear effects, yet an absolute terror to anyone who he can drug.

Using a few failed Powers Checks (potentially up to 5 to really give him some supernatural might) can help tailor all this where Expert and alchemy won't. Revolve his weakness around anyone who can stand up to him, his power around bullying anyone who can't or won't.

Just as a decent starting point.

Unlike in D&D, most drugs in the real world can't be over-come just because we want to resist their effects. Even for the well-trained. For someone saying the hallucinogen and antidote was ridiculous, that last statement rings rather...odd.

Yes they can.

Its all about controlling your own mind. You can just make yourself unaffected but I guarentee that mask and the gas would do nothing to scare me.

Thematically it would've had a bigger impact if Batman learned to overcome his fear b/c fear was a huge theme in the movie.

I realize its a superhero movie but being permanently drugged up unless you have an antidote that will make you permanently immune to the drug was hard to swallow. Not to mention that they made the antidote in a matter of hours. I didn't buy it.

Brandi wrote:

Troile wrote:You can always control your own mind.

Strangely enough, I suspect BTK would agree with you.

BTK?

Joël of the Fraternity wrote:

Brandi wrote:

Troile wrote:You can always control your own mind.

Strangely enough, I suspect BTK would agree with you.

BTK?

This guy... though notably as cool and clinical as he was during confessions he seems to have (or pretend to have) something like remorse now.

Nice fellow.

Definitively a VRG to human madness would be a great book. Something to make your villain very evil and twisted.

Joël

Strangely enough, I suspect BTK would agree with you.

It says right in that article that he blamed demons for doing it not himself...He said he had no control over himself...which is the complete opposite of what I said.

or maybe a massive con or some feats to grant him certain immunities against his own drugs. or a relative of a certain gifted toxic family..

Troile wrote:

Unlike in D&D, most drugs in the real world can't be over-come just because we want to resist their effects. Even for the well-trained. For someone saying the hallucinogen and antidote was ridiculous, that last statement rings rather...odd.

Yes they can.

Its all about controlling your own mind. You can just make yourself unaffected but I guarentee that mask and the gas would do nothing to scare me.

Thematically it would've had a bigger impact if Batman learned to overcome his fear b/c fear was a huge theme in the movie.

I realize its a superhero movie but being permanently drugged up unless you have an antidote that will make you permanently immune to the drug was hard to swallow. Not to mention that they made the antidote in a matter of hours. I didn't buy it.

I don't know many people that can will away a bad trip or decide they're tired of being drunk and just sober up. Heck, most people have trouble willing away rage and real fear when their minds are unclouded and rational. As for it being permanent LSD stays in your body forever and never goes away, hence the flashbacks. You gain a resistance with frequent usage but never immunity.
And I bought the quick antidote and long-lasting drug alot more readily than the mircorwave device that somehow goes through the metal of pipes and boils water in seconds but does nothing to humans who are 80% water.

The Scarecrow... He might work as a fihyr (as per my article in the most recent QtR) or a Boogyman but I like the idea of him being a chemical-using man, possibly using the alchemical rules in VRA. A human obsessed with fear and terror and experimenting with people.
A tad more specialized than Dominia, but perhaps an associate or pupil of him even. Possibly less concerned with insanity but the full range of terror from everyday spooks to mind-shattering fear.