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High Priest Mikhal wrote:

brilliantlight wrote:The novel is not to be believed. The people writing thought a story about "real ghosts" would sell. They were right and made a fortune at it.

That's why I said "if the book is to be believed." George and Kathy Lutz maintained their story to their dying days, even passing lie detectors. That just means they believe in what they told Anson (the author). Nearly forty years of shysters, fakes, and hype have erased any hope of ever knowing if the Lutzes were delusional or if they really did experience something. That's what makes it endure in the modern imagination: there's no way to tell one way or the other now.

Yeah, but if you mention it to anyone else in Amityville, they'll tell you some interesting stories about the Lutzes (or "Putzes" as the people of Amityville like to call them). What's pretty telling is that nobody else who's lived in that house since then has ever complained about ghosts or whatnot. If you can, watch the A&E show "City Confidential." The 75th episode of that show (6th season) focused on Amityville. It mostly focused on the DeFeo murders, but it does talk about the Lutzes, and you get some eye-opening interviews with long-time Amityville residents and their opinions of the Lutzes.

Anyway, I believe when I10 was first published, it was meant to represent the parts of Bram Stoker's Dracula that were set in England (with I6 representing the Transylvania sections). Godfrey was only a minor NPC in I10 and wasn't made a darklord until the Black Box. I don't know what specific works of fiction inspired Godefrey's story, though.

Bluebomber4evr wrote:Yeah, but if you mention it to anyone else in Amityville...

Sorry if this further sidetracks us but: I live fifteen minutes (or so) from Amityville and this sentiment is generally correct. No one has ever reported further weird events but that house is no longer there, it was knocked down and rebuilt. I would like to point out Long Island can be a very strange place. The movie "Poltergeist" is loosely based on events that occured at a house in Seaford, NY back in the fifties I think. That house was also demolished and rebuilt.

I'm well aware of the lack of any further disturbances and the "eccentric" reputations of the Lutzes. If people are reading my comments thinking I believe something happened I'll just come out and say it: I don't believe a word of the book, I used it as a FICTIONAL reference for haunted house ideas. It makes for an entertaining read, and the original movie is a horror classic, but otherwise it's about as truthful as a politician. I'm sorry I even brought it up.

High Priest Mikhal wrote:I'm sorry I even brought it up.

I didn't mean to make any assumptions or upset you. Apologies.

starfalconkd wrote:

High Priest Mikhal wrote:I'm sorry I even brought it up.

I didn't mean to make any assumptions or upset you. Apologies.

Accepted, and I apologize for my words.

High Priest Mikhal wrote:I'm well aware of the lack of any further disturbances and the "eccentric" reputations of the Lutzes. If people are reading my comments thinking I believe something happened I'll just come out and say it: I don't believe a word of the book, I used it as a FICTIONAL reference for haunted house ideas. It makes for an entertaining read, and the original movie is a horror classic, but otherwise it's about as truthful as a politician. I'm sorry I even brought it up.

Sorry, I must have misunderstood you.