Café de Nuit

Show me that tru wuv can't exist:
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Success. So? What's the insight?

Aldon's plan is elopement... I already see dozens of problems for this to work. Namely, every wizard\cleric that can cast scry is a problem for this plan.
Once we take Elissa from her chaperone we HAVE to move fast for the wedding.

So 100 gp and an extra 50. Enough to say, buy a house or something at any rate.

alhoon wrote: Once we take Elissa from her chaperone we HAVE to move fast for the wedding.

Indeed, he said you had to move fast. A day and a night.

alhoon wrote:Show me that tru wuv can't exist:
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Success. So? What's the insight?

Good.

A day and a night is actually as much as I think we would have before the army of hired wizards and clerics prepare locate spells and find us.


Do we know how customs view non-virgin women? I.e. if they spend a night together after eloping, most would assume they consummated their love even if they are not married. Would that lower Elissa's prospects to marry someone worthy?

Aldon is a good lad. Not sure if his plan WON'T lead to blood; he's too optimistic that the families will just "accept" the marriage and seek to negotiate afterwards. I find it equally possible that they will just turn on their in-laws to make widows after their heirs before they force-marry them.
NOTE: That's actually NOT Fild's concerns. Fild thinks that since Aldron thinks it will work, it will work, sharing his optimism.

alhoon wrote:Good.

A day and a night is actually as much as I think we would have before the army of hired wizards and clerics prepare locate spells and find us.


Do we know how customs view non-virgin women? I.e. if they spend a night together after eloping, most would assume they consummated their love even if they are not married. Would that lower Elissa's prospects to marry someone worthy?

Aldon is a good lad. Not sure if his plan WON'T lead to blood; he's too optimistic that the families will just "accept" the marriage and seek to negotiate afterwards. I find it equally possible that they will just turn on their in-laws to make widows after their heirs before they force-marry them.
NOTE: That's actually NOT Fild's concerns. Fild thinks that since Aldron thinks it will work, it will work, sharing his optimism.

Noted.

If they elope and a priest of the city performs and registers the marriage, then a binding contract exists by Poveran law. They would be married in the eyes of gods and men. This is Aldron's plan. Not just running off to meet by night, but actually getting married in an irregular but binding way. Then, for either family to negate the marriage would be like cancelling any other serious legal contract --a pain in the neck and a source of scandal. Contracts are taken quite seriously in POVERO.

Her virginity is indeed a thing to be guarded. People might indeed assume it had been lost if she ran away with Richard for more than a night. That loss would lower her prospects.
But a big dowry can overcome a family's doubts about such stuff.

I am presuming Alphonse or Titus can perform a marriage ceremony?

Forget which one is a priest lol

RE possible outcomes of the proposed adventure/job: I can't comment too much on this subject for the obvious reason that this would make the game less fun.

steveflam wrote:I am presuming Alphonse or Titus can perform a marriage ceremony?

Forget which one is a priest lol

Titus is.

He's not registered formally as a priest of the city, though he might be able to make that happen soon.

ewancummins wrote:RE possible outcomes of the proposed adventure/job:

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Didn't read the above, but if I may suggest... do you mind putting it in a spoiler tag with a "SPOILERS!" thing above it so I don't accidentally read it? I kinda don't want to know if my doom and gloom predictions are going to come true or what are the chances of them coming true etc.

So, if I get this right :

We, as a party, need to separate/get her away from her bodyguards - don't kill them. And bring her to a predestined place, as Aldron is going to take care of the "Richard" side..

That a bout sums it up?

steveflam wrote:So, if I get this right :

We, as a party, need to separate/get her away from her bodyguards - don't kill them. And bring her to a predestined place, as Aldron is going to take care of the "Richard" side..

That a bout sums it up?

Yes.

alhoon wrote:
Didn't read the above, but if I may suggest... do you mind putting it in a spoiler tag with a "SPOILERS!" thing above it so I don't accidentally read it? I kinda don't want to know if my doom and gloom predictions are going to come true or what are the chances of them coming true etc.

There were no spoilers in it, and no estimation of the chance of success. It was a general note to the effect that this isn't a railroad module. But I've trimmed it down further for you, ALhoon.

Oh, sorry! Didn't mean to be a pain. You have a panel for that.