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thekristhomas wrote:
Desperation Road: I don't have this web enhancement
Yes, you do. :)
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(I didn't really know about them, are they considered canon?)
No official comment, but I'd say (mostly) yes. They are stuff that was supposed to be in the books, but got cut for space....

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Thanks so much!


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I've reoriented it so it's the "right" way up, I think it's harder to read, but it feels more "correct", and I've added the fishing village of Ghent, mentioned in the Champions of Darkness product


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Added the Keep of Forgetting, Gaz 1 says it's on the Dreadpass, and I guessed that it'd be serviced by a spring at one of the Luna's tributaries.

Placed the Monastery of Silver Threads as close to the Markovian Monastery as is decent, for reasons already mentioned

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Mirror River (Genspejlle)


I've checked the Black Box & Red box maps, and this river rises just over the Hazlan Border (in Nova Vaasa post GC), and doesn't appear within this map, but I have marked the Saniset and Ulvand rivers for clarity


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The Lesser Evil wrote:
Missing locations for Forlorn
Desperation Road (Gaz I web enhancement)
Forfarmax (the hamlet, actually across the border in Hazlan, but relevant enough should probably be on the map)
Gorge of Passing Sorrow (Gaz 1, p. 65)
Kilovan River
Tower of Disgrace (Gaz 1, p.65)


been able to place all except Desperation's Road, not sure how I'd mark up a temporary road, but assuming I just mark it as a road, where does it lead from and to?

According to the gaz1 web enhancement, Madame Eva was fleeing Gundarak, so somewhere on the border, trouble is there is already a decent enough road there (unless this was before the logging road was built, which is entirely possible, Gundarak was still a domain, Azenwrath was still a treant, Eva still had a head, it was a while ago)

It also mentions a grove that the vistani must camp in while Azenwrath sends a "horror", the groves are all near the border, there's one near the Gundarak border, maybe that's where it starts?

It says the road runs "straight" through the domain, assuming it would avoid the two mountains that takes it roughly parallel to the Kartakan border, does that sound right?


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Pre GC Borca and Dorvinia, again Black Box map basis and then the gaz info added.

This one feels a bit scrappy, mostly because I had to squeeze the Dorvinia info in, I might divide it up further, what do you think?


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Happier with this one, post GC Borca


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I'm going to go ahead and say that I don't like/am struggling with, the maps from the red box onward up til the gazeteers.

I can't make any sense of them, for example:

I'm drawing a map of Invidia, I have access to the following maps

The Black Box map of the core

The Red Box map of the core

The map of Invidia from The Evil Eye

The map of Invidia from Gaz IV

Immediately when you compare black to red the domains are completely different shapes, I get that there were border shifts with the GC and that the red box map has a different projection, but even taking that into account, I'm struggling.

Now, the red box matches well with the map from the adventure, but with added detail, and the Gaz map has most of the same info on as the Evil Eye, but matches (proportion-wise) the black box pretty much.

So on one level, I could just disregard the red box (done), but the detail on the Evil Eye map when compared to the Gaz map is again causing me pause.

To me, and I could be wrong, it looks like the Gaz version of Invidia has taken a chunk of Arkandale that wasn't included in the red box/evil eye versions.

Again I could be wrong, but it seems like Castle Loupet where placed (in both the gaz and the evil eye, but more in the gaz) would have been in Arkandale in the pre-GC configuration.

I'll have a fiddle and post the results soon.


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I've left the black box borders in red, I've tried to fit the red box borders in blue and the gaz borders in purple, to show you what I mean

There's also a bit of borca that's been swallowed

The red box border is basically guesswork based on geographical features rather than trying to match projections


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Invidia pre-GC


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The much increased Invidia from the Gaz, notice the Bonesliver River being gained from Borca as well as a chunk of what were Arkandale and Gundarak


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Verbrek pre GC notice that Fylfot is over the border in what was the no-man's land south of mordent


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Verbrek post GC, notice the Circle is now much further north


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Dementlieu, seems very empty, I must be missing someplaces, help please?


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Kartakass, using black box, FoG, and gaz.

little problem with the forests, black box and FoG agree on areas of forestation, but gaz seems to have much less clear ground, so the Wolfwood and Redwood don't match the text


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